{"id":2592,"date":"2021-08-22T05:48:27","date_gmt":"2021-08-22T05:48:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/wp.cov19longhaulfoundation.org\/?p=2592"},"modified":"2021-08-22T05:48:27","modified_gmt":"2021-08-22T05:48:27","slug":"the-vaccinated-are-worried-and-scientists-dont-have-answers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cov19longhaulfoundation.org\/?p=2592","title":{"rendered":"The Vaccinated Are Worried and Scientists Don\u2019t Have Answers"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Authors: Kristen V. Brown and Rebecca Torrence\u00a0\u00a014 hrs ago<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\">Anecdotes tell us what the data can\u2019t: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate. But exactly how often isn\u2019t clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others. And now, there\u2019s growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\">There\u2019s a dearth of scientific studies with concrete answers, leaving public policy makers and corporate executives to formulate plans based on fragmented information. While some are renewing mask mandates or&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2021-08-19\/schwab-boosts-staff-pay-by-5-delays-office-return-to-january\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">delaying<\/a>&nbsp;office reopenings, others cite the lack of clarity to justify&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2021-08-19\/florida-s-desantis-must-face-suit-over-school-mask-mandate-ban\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">staying the course<\/a>. It can all feel like a mess.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\">\u201cWe have to be humble about what we do know and what we don\u2019t know,\u201d said Tom Frieden, a former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the head of the nonprofit Resolve to Save Lives. \u201cThere are a few things we can say definitively. One is that this is a hard question to address.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2021-08-19\/booster-review-postponed-by-cdc-as-debate-swirls-over-third-shot\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Read more: Booster Review Delayed by CDC as Debate Swirls Over 3rd Shot<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\">Absent clear public health messaging, vaccinated people are left confused about how to protect themselves. Just how vulnerable they are is a key variable not just for public health officials trying to figure out, say, when booster shots might be needed, but also to inform decisions about whether to roll back reopenings amid a&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/graphics\/2020-united-states-coronavirus-outbreak\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">new wave<\/a>&nbsp;of the virus. On a smaller scale, the unknowns have left music lovers unsure if it\u2019s OK to see a concert and prompted a fresh round of hang-wringing among parents pondering what school is going to look like.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\">In lieu of answers, what has emerged is a host of case studies providing somewhat different pictures of breakthrough infections. Variables including when the surveys were conducted, whether the delta variant was present, how much of the population was vaccinated and even what the weather was like at the time make it hard to compare results and suss out patterns. It\u2019s difficult to know which data might ultimately carry more heft.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\">\u201cIt\u2019s quite clear that we have more breakthroughs now,\u201d said Monica Gandhi, an infectious disease expert at the University of California, San Francisco. \u201cWe all know someone who has had one. But we don\u2019t have great clinical data.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\">One of the best known outbreaks among vaccinated people occurred in the small beach town of Provincetown, Massachusetts, as thousands of vaccinated and unvaccinated alike gathered on dance floors and at house parties over the Fourth of July weekend to celebrate the holiday &#8212; and what seemed like a turning point in the pandemic. About three-fourths of the 469 infections were among vaccinated people.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2021-07-30\/are-covid-shots-working-what-the-real-world-tells-us-quicktake\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Read more: Are Covid Shots Working? What the Real World Tells Us<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cdc.gov\/mmwr\/volumes\/70\/wr\/mm7031e2.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Authors of a CDC case study said<\/a>&nbsp;this might mean that they were just as likely to transmit Covid-19 as the unvaccinated. Even so, they cautioned, as more people are vaccinated, it\u2019s natural that they would also account for a larger share of Covid-19 infections and this one study was not sufficient to draw any conclusions. The incident prompted the CDC to reverse a recommendation it had issued just a few weeks earlier and once again urge the vaccinated to mask up in certain settings.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\">Still, the particular details of that cluster of cases may have made that outbreak especially bad, according to Gandhi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\">\u201cThe rate of mild symptomatic outbreaks in this population was higher because of a lot of indoor activity (including intimacy), rain that weekend, not much outside time and mixture of people with different vaccination status,\u201d she said in an email.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\">A newly released, far larger CDC case&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cdc.gov\/mmwr\/volumes\/70\/wr\/mm7034e1.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">study<\/a>&nbsp;of infections in New York state, meanwhile, found that the number of breakthrough infections has steadily ticked up since May, accounting for almost 4% of cases by mid-July. Those researchers cautioned that factors such as easing public health restrictions and the rise of the highly contagious delta variant might impact the results.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\">Yet another CDC case study, in Colorado, found that the breakthrough infection rate in one county, Mesa, was significantly higher than the rest of the state, at 7% versus about 5%.&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cdc.gov\/mmwr\/volumes\/70\/wr\/mm7032e2.htm?s_cid=mm7032e2_w\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The report<\/a>&nbsp;suggested it was perhaps because the delta variant was circulating more widely there, but also noted the ages of patients in Mesa and the lower vaccination rate may have played a role.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\"><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2021-08-18\/israeli-research-shows-covid-booster-shot-is-highly-effective\" target=\"_blank\">Research<\/a>\u00a0out of Israel seems to back the idea that protection from severe disease wanes in the months after inoculation, and more recently, that breakthrough cases may eventually lead to an uptick in hospitalizations. The information is preliminary and severe breakthrough cases are still rare, but it bolsters the case that some people will need booster shots in coming months.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\">Case studies and data from some states in the U.S. have similarly shown an increase in breakthrough cases over time. But with the delta variant also on the rise, it\u2019s difficult to tell whether waning immunity to any type of coronavirus infection is to blame, or if the vaccinations are particularly ineffective against the delta variant. It could be both, of course.&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/graphics\/2021-return-to-office\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Changing behavior<\/a>&nbsp;among vaccinated people could be a factor, too, as they return to social gatherings and travel and dining indoors.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\">All that said, some facts are well established at this point. Vaccinated people infected with the virus are much less likely to need to go to the hospital, much less likely to need intubation and much less likely to die from the illness. There\u2019s no doubt that vaccines provide significant protection. But a large proportion of the nation &#8212; almost 30% of U.S. adults &#8212; have not been vaccinated, a fact that has conspired with the highly contagious delta variant to push the country into a new wave of outbreaks.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\">\u201cThe big picture here is that the vaccines are working and the reason for the spike in the U.S. is we have too little vaccine uptake,\u201d Frieden said.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\">To a certain extent, breakthrough cases of any virus are expected. In clinical trials, no Covid vaccine was 100% effective &#8212; even the best vaccines never are. The more the virus is in circulation, the greater the risk of breakthrough cases. It\u2019s also common for some aspects of viral immunity to naturally wane over time.<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"map: covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution-inline.png\" src=\"https:\/\/img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net\/tenant\/amp\/entityid\/AANzMMi.img?h=875&amp;w=1438&amp;m=6&amp;q=60&amp;o=f&amp;l=f\">\u00a9 Bloomberg&nbsp;covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution-inline.png<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\">For the time being, there are simply more questions than answers. Are breakthrough infections ticking up because of the delta variant, waning immunity or a return to normal life? Are vaccinated people more vulnerable to severe illness than previously thought? Just how common are breakthrough infections? It\u2019s anyone\u2019s guess.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\">\u201cIt is generally the case that we have to make public health decisions based on imperfect data,\u201d Frieden said. \u201cBut there is just a lot we don\u2019t know.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\">(Adds more on Israeli study in 13th paragraph.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\">More stories like this are available on&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">bloomberg.com<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:22px\">\u00a92021 Bloomberg L.P.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Authors: Kristen V. Brown and Rebecca Torrence\u00a0\u00a014 hrs ago Anecdotes tell us what the data can\u2019t: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate. 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